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Wednesday, January 04, 2006

Too Easy

The MSM makes it to easy for us to bash them, I wonder if they will learn. Their latest being the inaccurate reporting on the tragic mining accident, the Lord's grace to those involved. Despite my status as a lowly blue state conservative workerbee I seem to be better informed than those that attempt to give me the news. The Sacramento Bee is horrible and I have read a newspaper or two from around the country. I love newspapers, I am an almost daily consumer, less since I became wired to the Internet. I just get my news with less paper involved, thus fewer trees, being a nature freak. I am reading them even less now because of the obvious slant to partisan politics. They haven't gotten a story right in ages, why believe them? Even the venerated AP is coming up short in this age of blogs and webzines. We can scan many editorial pages in minutes with no mess of Macy's ads. I want hard fact checked news, not partisan 'gotcha' games and spin, real news, up to date and honest. I believe in good journalism, a considered career still, a belief that inquiring minds want to know and learn, I am one of those inquiring minds.
I am constantly amazed at the folks I meet online from CEOs to stay at home moms, equally tough jobs. I have met lunatics and modern day philosophers of the first class, wolves, sheepdogs and sheep. The Internet has truelly enabled a national conversation between total strangers, an awesome thing. The ability to interact and converse with hundreds of strangers, think about it, it is an unreal ability, unknown till now.

22 comments:

tugboatcapn said...

What amazes me is the fact that the MSM still believes that THEY are, and logically should be THE shapers of public opinion on every subject.

We are supposed to overlook any evidence of bias on their part, and every instance of inaccuracy, and just continue to buy it all, hook, line, and sinker.

You are right. The internet gives everyone access to information from all directions. If you surf around a little every night, you can figure out what really happened for yourself, and find someone to talk about it with as well.

Goat said...

I love the net, I like to know, to be informed about alot of things. I like to be able to discuss it with strangers,openly and honestly, no matter the political bias. To me it is fun, a nerdy hobby, so to speak.

Mark said...

The fiasco in West Virginia was a shameful display of news orgaizations so eager to be the first to get the story out that they depended on inaccurate information and rumors. And all it got them was egg on their faces. Even FOX news got caught this time.

I wrote a legthy post on this over at my place, along with a comparison to the media's "miscommunication" vs Bush's pre war intel "lies".

KEvron said...

even fox got caught?! hilarious!

it wasn't only the mainstream who carried this story, folks....

KEvron

Goat said...

Personal name calling or mindless drivel will be deleted, Kev, you are welcome to join in intelligent conversation. Use that superior unionized brain of yours to out debate us on facts, namecalling is for preschoolers with bad parents.

Goat said...

I don't believe I am going on your sight and insulting your visitors, you come here of your own volition if you don't agree, post an intelligent fact based comment. Posting as a smartass tends to be tiresome and tends towards a negative response. I cut you alot of slack because you live in the Gay Bay and you are a result of the politics there, I lived in San Jose for a while also LA. My assessment of your comments finds them uninformed and very immature. I know you think you are cute and your fellow idiocrats pat you on the back for your witty one liners. To me you just further my case with ample evidence of the moral turpitude of the far left and increasingly the DNC and strengthen my resolve to make sure your type never, never, never takes power in the country. Never is a long time and I hope y'all keep chucking those hefty logs on our fire of conservatism. Have a Happy New Year Kevronious, for I predict next year won't be quite so happy for the left.

KEvron said...

you may do whatever you like on my blog, with the exception of spamming or theft identity. it's freedom, baby!
:-)

KEvron

Goat said...

See, Kev, that is the difference. I would not go on your site and insult your friends. I would offer facts and honest discussion of the facts if I chose to comment there. You came here to sling insultory retoric and weak one liners, a major difference.

KEvron said...

er, "identity theft".

"I would offer facts and honest discussion of the facts if I chose to comment there."

uh, we discussed four of those "facts" to no resolution, despite my undeniable evidence, so you may spare me anymore of your "facts". as for insults, the veiled variety count, especially those which are clumsy and obvious.

you know, we started off kinda bumpy, but i thought we had smoothed things out a bit. but you keep reverting to your insinuations and your angry hyperbole. you didn't ask me for my opinion on abortion; you spat an accusation in my face. go pound your accusations. theyr'e not "discussion", pal.

"unionized brain"....man, are you ever provincial!

KEvron

Goat said...

I asked staight up what is your opinion on partial birth abortion, killing a baby as it is born, you said in effect 'soup time'. Now where was I unclear? Please put that superior union brain to work and explain. Please, it is nice when the left blows a gasket and spews all over the place as you are. May I remind you the facts you have presented so far affirm my position so why argue them?

KEvron said...

reality disconnect, bub. it's getting boring.

KEvron said...

"Well Kevron, when wiil Reid turn some 40.000 he recieved from Abromhof? Or what about Pelosi?"


(since cap'n's a wussy, i have to answer over here)

according to his spokesperson reid's not returning the money. i don't know about pelosi. why don't you ask her yourself. and they didn't receive money from abramoff, they received it from his clients (in good faith, i presume). only republicans received money from abramoff.

KEvron

Goat said...

Oh give me a break, Kevron, yeah more GOP than DNC were involved with Abramhoff but Queen Hillary was just fined 35,000 for campain violations. It is rampant in both parties. IMO "K Street" should be closed down, I don't like lobbyists, politicians should be holding townhalls with their constituents not high paid money changers on golf junkets.

KEvron said...

listen closely: THIS thing is republican all the way.

you don't like lobbyists? vote for change. i know; "change" isn't exactly congruous to conservativism....

KEvron

Cabe said...

I'm sure there is enough evidence to convict Keith Olberman for treason.

Goat said...

You want change then vote for small government conservatism, socially regressive socialism and taxation is not the way to grow. Kevron your lack of econmic knowledge overshadows even your weaknesses of the innergoings of congress. Please continue to educate us activist conservatives on the wisdom and viability of turning aborted babies into soup and stopping our military from protecting us. Please use that superior union mind of yours to educate us, we are supple at your massive feet, please stomp on us with your social wisdom, oh mighty union. BAAA, I await your emminence's proclomation, oh mighty Kevron on a high.

KEvron said...

soup is good food!

KEvron

KEvron said...

"It was not so long ago as an informed by the La Times and The San Jose Mercury, I might have believed them."

ooof! don't let the cap'n hear you say that; he cited the times in one of his rebuttals....

KEvron

KEvron said...

"Oh Kev, are you saying the massive amounts of money the unions give to the DNC is not meant to buy votes on policy favorable to unions?"

am i?

"So from our conversation so far, you like terrorism"

do i?

"you want to turn aborted babies into soup"

just soup?

"and it is okay for your lobbyists, the union, to buy votes"

it is?

"but not a Jewish group"

it isn't?

"both criminal in my book."

sadly, your book carries little influence with the doj. lobbying is legal in this country. why, it's got rules and everthimg!

"Check the tens of millions the NEA has donated of their labor taxes."

sources, please. (and maybe a second draft?)

"The only reasons unions exist today is because the DNC is bought and paid for by unions and quacks like Soros."

is that the only reason?

"I may be a redneck country boy but I seem to be a bit better researched than you my liberal friend."

well, then you'll have no trouble citing the relevant sources re: "the tens of millions the NEA has donated of their labor taxes" (whatever that means). no newsmax, please; only "dot gov" will suffice.

"Debating you is like scratching a minor itch, it feels good."

methinks thou dost have forensic cooties....

"I am an experienced web researcher and love to read"

yer a catch!

"left, right, centrist and fantasy."

i can see how it's influenced you "debating" technique....

"Since you come here with nothing new to add to the conversation"

how 'bout something old then?
something borrowed?

"I would gather you are here to learn something new"

that must be it.

"I am pleased and humbled."

you do seem so.

"You stand a chance of be weaned from suckling at the union teat"

yeah, that's what i want; a lower standard of living.

"otherwise I'd ignore you."

not if your life depended on it.

"You return as an agitated child spinning, hoping for a grasp on reality."

and for the soup!

like i said, when you're ready to drop the veiled (and not-so veiled)insults and insinuations, maybe then we can have a discussion (not a debate, as i find debate to be a logistical impossibilty in cyberspace). don't pretend to know me, or how i feel on a particular subject (other than those i presented, at some length, several weeks ago. my stance on abortion rights was on that list, as you well know). until then, i'll continue to pee in your soup....

KEvron

KEvron said...

"You want change then vote for small government conservatism"

you mean like chimpco? they've increased the "size" of gov't.
i could care less about the size of the government, as long as it more-or-less (i don't expect the ideal) functions properly.

"socially regressive socialism"

is that from the department of redundancy department?

"and taxation is not the way to grow."

can't have an appropriately proportioned gov't without taxes.

"Kevron your lack of econmic knowledge overshadows even your weaknesses of the innergoings of congress."

i'll try to work on that.

"Please continue to educate us activist conservatives on the wisdom and viability of turning aborted babies into soup and stopping our military from protecting us."

if you insist.

"Please use that superior union mind of yours to educate us"

it's gonna cost ya.

"we are supple at your massive feet"

that's so sexy!

"please stomp on us with your social wisdom"

how 'bout i stomp on you with my massive feet, you supple fish, you!

"oh mighty union."

that line and the proper handshake will get you into any mason's meeting.

"BAAA"

you may bring your sheep to the meeting, too.

"I await your emminence's proclomation"

off with their pants!

"oh mighty Kevron on a high."

i may be on a high, but the stuff yer smokin' must be the chronic!

KEvron

Goat said...

I thank you for affirming my assertions there Kevron. You are truelly a wealth of information on the regressive socialist gene in american politics. If you consider veiled or unveiled challenges to your intellect as insults depends on your intellect. I guess you I have never observed an English Parlimentarion debate with Tony Blair getting grilled.The NEA gave 65 mill to an assortment of far left PACs, other NGOs and DNC pols. The story is widely available above the sand if you wish to pull your headout. Please offer evidence revoking my accusation as defense to my prosecution. Though I imagine since you said you are discriminatory in your reading you ignore sights that don't support your socialist agenda. When I have offered my sources in the past you chose to call the authors names or ignored the multiple links in my post so why take you as no more than a crank liberal seminar poster. Find out how easy it is to ignore you, enjoy life and happy new year.

Goat said...

You are still free to post Kevron. I just get to read it first. When you can post facts beyond Moveon or Air America talking points you can rejoin the discussion on how to move forward. Taxes, regulation , socialism and union molly coddling are not progress. When you are ready to acknowledge ten quarters of growth and very low unemployment, 4.9%, you are free to comment, unleashed. You challenge me for sources and you offer not one in rebuttal and when you have, they support my argument. Grow up and wipe the smirk off and we can have a conversation , untill then, enjoy cyberspace.